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35 thrash Wilberforce in the debate. But thats not what happened. Contemporary accounts though few and far between indicate Wilberforce did indeed conclude his speech with a comment about apes and ancestors although the exact words were not recorded. Huxley however did not say he would rather be descended from an ape than a bishop. In a letter to Frederick Dyster in September Huxley gave this account If then said I the question is put to me would I rather have a miserable ape for a grandfather or a man highly endowed by nature and possessed of great means and influence and Much Ado About Nothing One famous Darwin myth concerns the debate between Samuel Wilberforce Bishop of Oxford and T. H. Huxley Darwins Bulldog. The confrontation took place on Saturday June 30 1860 at Oxford University at the annual meeting of the British Association for the Advancement of Science. Legend has it Wilberforce ended his critique of Darwins theory by asking Huxley Are you descended from the apes on your grandfathers or grandmothers side Supposedly Huxley replied I would rather be descended from an ape than a Bishop and then proceeded to Caricatures of Bishop Wilberforce and T. H. Huxley appeared in Vanity Fair.